SEPTEMBER

COUNCIL

STOKENHAM PARISH COUNCIL

MINUTES OF THE MEETING

HELD ON 18TH SEPTEMBER 2008 IN THE

STOKENHAM PARISH HALL

 

PRESENT:

COUNCILLORS:

P.  GREENING (in the Chair)

P. ARUNDELL

J. ANSELL

N. TOLCHARD

B. IRELAND

R. BATES

R. WARDEN

R. FOSS

W. HARWOOD

A. VALE – Personal

 

Also in attendance: Clerk – Mrs G. Claydon

 

APOLOGIES:

COUNCILLORS

MRS C. NUTTALL-SMITH - Personal

MRS A. HUTCHINGS - Personal

J. BAVERSTOCK (also District Councillor) - Personal

J. BRAZIL (County Councillor) - Personal

 

1.        DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST

 

Councillors were reminded of their responsibility to continually update their Notice of Registerable Interests and invited to state whether they had a personal or prejudicial interest in any matter to be discussed during this meeting.

 

2.        OPEN FORUM

 

Joe Johnston and his son in law were present to answer questions and make comments with regard to the Shindle Park planning application.  They advised that the application had been submitted having undertaken consultation with planning officers.  They had also spoken to neighbours and all had indicated that they were content with the application at present.  A previous planning application on this property some years ago had been approved and this proposal sought a smaller extension overall.  It was acknowledged that the roofline of the original application was lower but the applicant asserted that the approved application is larger in area.  A councilor questioned whether it was the eastern end that is slightly smaller and this was agreed.  It was noted that the proposal is not incorporating a garage in the development and just providing car parking.  The applicant also advised that they sought to alter the drive as is was not felt to be safe to get children in and out of car as it is at present.

 

3.        MINUTES

 

The reference to the Chair arriving at the meeting was deleted from the Minutes of the meeting dated 4th September 2008 as it was felt to be misleading and they were then approved by all present and duly signed as a true and correct record.

 

 

4.        PLANNING & PLANNING MATTERS

           Applications to be considered at this meeting:

 

1659/08/O Resubmission of application 53/1859/07/O for outline application for erection of dwelling and garage Land between 15 & 17 Green Park Way, Chillington  No objection although one councillor expressed concern at the close proximity of the proposed dwelling to the highway and possible interference with overhead cables.

 

1704/08/F Alterations and single storey extensions to dwelling 6 Shindle Park, Chillington – No objection although some concern was raised by one councillor with regard to the proximity of this proposed property to the highway and overhead cables.

 

1714/08/F Conversion of bar/games room/kitchen to two residential apartments Torcross Apartment Hotel, Torcross – No objection.

Cllr. Harwood arrived.

 

5.        BOUNDARY COMMITTEE

 

The noted that the clerk had circulated the draft document with comments and additions from the last council meeting to all councillors.  He went on to acknowledge that many meetings had been held by local authorities and organisations covering this topic and that he, the clerk and a few others councillors had attended such. 

Cllr. Foss arrived.

 

Concern was reiterated with regard to the proposed make up of the Community Boards which it is suggested are intended to be made up of elected members and representatives from groups with certain interests (being referred to as stakeholders) thus giving a platform for unelected people not covered by the same codes as local government.  It was also suggested that the worst case scenario for the future of these boards would be that they would become just another ‘cluster meeting’ or talk shop.  Such proposal to create these boards was seen as a smoke screen to tick a box.

 

With the creation of a Unitary based in Exeter there was a concern that councillors did not want Follaton House to be reduced in stature as there was a feeling locally amongst people that there would be a gap which would make it difficult for them to make a connection with services.  As such the proposed Unitary was felt to be disenfranchising the general public as the people in power will be further away from them.

 

Residents are paying enough for services currently but it was perceived that, although given alternative assurances that council tax will go up because of some services needing to align across the County such as recycling.  The general consensus was that the Boundary Committee’s proposal for Unitary Devon had been a ‘rush job’ with little thought given to consequences and implementation.

 

The Chair suggested that together with the above comments a further bullet should be added to the proposed response document as follows:

 

The proposed Unitary authority appears to be cost savings driven rather than meeting the Government’s objective of improving governance to create a greater instrument for people in the management of their affairs.

 

It was AGREED to formally approve the parish council response to the Boundary Committee as drafted following the inclusion of the above additional comments from the meeting together with a further separate letter being sent to the Boundary Committee requesting status quo.

 

7.        PLAY AREA MANAGEMENT

 

It was AGREED that this parish council wish to embrace the ownership of such Open Spaces in this parish if such is offered by District Council having first ensured that such maintenance required has been implemented and thus the Chair and Clerk were requested to enter into negotiations should such transfer be possible and report to full council when such takes place.

 

8.        HALF YEARLY BUDGET AGAINST ACTUALS

 

The Clerk tabled such figures (as attached) and it was AGREED that council acknowledged and approved such report.

 

9.        A379 BUS STOP IMPROVEMENTS CHURCH HOUSE INN, STOKENHAM

 

It was AGREED that all councillors were content with the proposals for such.

 

8.        REPORTS

 

Matters around the parish requiring notification or action by the Clerk:

 

  • Permissive path opposite Dockeys Lane to the Duckery was noted to have a vast amount of  Japanese Knotwood growing – Cllr. Ireland is to email photographs and report such to Tim Pollard at District.
  • A request was made for a litter bin by Robins Field bus shelter – Clerk to request such.

 

CHILLINGTON COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION

 

Cllr Warden reported that he had received a report from the Community Association advising that the Community Hall was suffering a spate of vandalism.  The post fence over the walkway entrance had been broken and manhole covers on the path also disturbed.

 

           AREA OF OUTSTANDING NATIONAL BEAUTY FORUM

 

This meeting had taken place at the Slapton Ley Field Centre wherein Stokenham Parish Council had been mentioned due to the fact that they are taking on devolved services.  Those present were interested and keen to be kept informed as to its outcome.  The Annual Meeting is due to take place on an evening in October and Cllrs. Vale and Warden expressed an interest in attending.

 

The AONB group will also be forwarding a letter to the Boundary Committee making comment with regard to the proposed Unitary as such changes will affect the AONB with regard to funding.

 

           PARISH COUNCIL SURGERY

 

The Chair advised that he along with District Cllr. Baverstock, Cllrs Ireland, Bates and the Clerk had been available at the first surgery held when seven parishioners attended.  Discussions covered the Unitary proposals although the clerk was present to answer any parish concerns and assist anyone wishing to use the free broadband access.  The Chair asserted that this council should continue to offer at least four surgeries a year due to such meeting a Quality Status criteria and his belief that councillors availability was good practice in keeping the parish council high profile.

 

           QUALITY STATUS UPDATING

 

The Clerk and Chair had attended this update briefing but had felt that they were already conversant with much that was discussed therein.  If did however afford the ability to confirm certain beliefs with regard to the criteria.  There are more mandatory tests to achieve along with further discretionary communication criteria one being a ‘blog’ – a means of dialogue with members of the public which offers a forum for others to reply with regard to parish matters.  Those applying for the first time can now work towards such Quality mark but Stokenham Parish Council having already achieved such must apply and ensure that such application is in for consideration either 12th November or 8th December.

 

           DEVOLVED SERVICES

 

The parish council are continuing to be active achieving satisfaction with the arrangements to implement this pilot by 29th September 2008.

 

           CLERK’S REPORT

 

The clerk drew councillors attention to the following:

 

  • Planning training – Saturday 4th October reminded of planning training 9.30 to 3.30p.m.
  • Request by ‘Magistrates in the Community’ team to meet with councillors informally to try and answer any questions parish council may have about their work.  It was suggested that such representatives be invited to attend the Annual Parish Meeting in April 2009.
  • An invitation by the Samaritans to attend their 35th AGM at Lower Guildhall, Plymouth.
  • Kingsbridge and Salcombe Area Parish Cluster meeting to take place on 21st October in The Library, Cliff House, Salcombe and parish council is invited to submit agenda items.
  • AONB Annual forum invitation 17th October 2008 6.30 – 9p.m. – Yealmpton Community Centre.  Councillors as noted above in the AONB report to attend.

 

 

9.        DISTRICT COUNCILLOR’S REPORT

 

No report available.

 

10.      COUNTY COUNCILLOR’S REPORT

 

No report available.

 

11.      FINANCE AND CHEQUES

 

Bank Balances:

 

Current Account         £    906.39

Instant Savers (1)       £23696.85

Instant Savers (2)       £  3254.99

 

Cheques:

 

001534 Concorde Copiers – Maintenance £2.34

001535 G. Claydon – Clerk’s wages (Sept.) £to be advised

001536 In. Rev. – Tax & Nat. Ins (Sept) £to be advised

001537 Eclipse – Community & Council IT £to be advised

 

Payments received:

 

14.      POINTS OF INFORMATION

 

SHDC Kingsbridge & Salcombe Area Parish Cluster meeting Agenda 21st October 2008.

SHDC Minutes of the Executive 4th September 2008.

South Hams Magazine Issue 13, Autumn 2008.

Voluntary Vine Newsletter Volume 16 – Issue 4, Sept/Nov. 2008.

DCC Parish and Town Council Update Events.

DAPC Draft Response to Boundary Committee Draft Proposals for Devon 2008.

DAPC Newsletter Sept/Oct. 2008.

 

15.      NEXT MEETING

 

The next full parish council meeting will be held on Thursday 2nd October 2008 at 7.30p.m. in the Wesley Smith Room, Stokenham Parish Hall.

 

Meeting finished: 9.45p.m.

Signed ………………………   Dated: 2nd October 2008.

 

STOKENHAM PARISH COUNCIL

MINUTES OF THE MEETING

HELD ON 4TH SEPTEMBER 2008 IN THE

STOKENHAM PARISH HALL

 

PRESENT:

COUNCILLORS:

R. FOSS (in the Chair)

P.  GREENING (took the Chair on arrival)

P. ARUNDELL

J. ANSELL

N. TOLCHARD

W. HARWOOD

MRS A. HUTCHINGS

B. IRELAND

R. BATES

J. BRAZIL (County Councillor)

J. BAVERSTOCK (also District Councillor)

 

Also in attendance: Clerk – Mrs G. Claydon

 

APOLOGIES:

COUNCILLORS

A. VALE – Personal

MRS C. NUTTALL-SMITH - Personal

R. WARDEN - Personal

 

1.        DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST

 

Councillors were reminded of their responsibility to continually update their Notice of Registerable Interests and invited to state whether they had a personal or prejudicial interest in any matter to be discussed during this meeting.

 

  • Cllr. Baverstock advised that whilst he would take part in discussions with regard to planning.  In view of his position as a District Councillor and the need for him to discuss such matters with the planning officers and thus keep an open mind on deciding whether such applications should go through under delegated decision or go to Planning Committee he would take part in discussions but not vote at parish level.

 

2.        OPEN FORUM

 

No members of the public being present this was dispensed with.

 

3.        MINUTES

 

The Minutes of the meeting dated 7th August 2008 were approved by all present and duly signed as a true and correct record by Cllr Foss, being in the Chair until Cllr Greening arrived.  

 

 

4.        PLANNING & PLANNING MATTERS

           Applications to be considered at this meeting:

 

0529/08/CU Change of use of barn to studio and storage facility Barn north west of Cousens Farm, Dunstone – WITHDRAWN

 

1299/08/F Extension and alterations to bungalow 10 Cotmore Close, Chillington – WITHDRAWN

 

1536/08/F Alterations & extensions to dwelling Meadow View, 6 Orchard Way, Chillington – No objection.

 

1559/08/F Amendments to approval 53/0623/08/F for revision of car park layout, provision of additional rooflight, rebuilding of boundary wall for access and reduction in ridgeline of lean-to roof Torcross Apartment Hotel, Torcross – No objection.

 

           PLANNING PERMISSION GRANTED

 

1062/08/F Conversion of existing barn to holiday use Barn at Cotmore Farm, Cotmore

 

1121/08/F Amendment to condition 20 of planning approval 53/0939/04/F for the demolition of existing hotel, coach house and sheds and construction of 5 no. new dwellings (amendment to line of new footpath) Start View, Hallsands

 

1197/08/F Resubmission of planning application 53/0932/08/F for alterations and extension to dwelling Pennistone, Fairfield Way, Chillington

 

1216/08/F Single storey extension Wagtails, Beeson

 

1235/08/F Removal of conditions 4 & 5 of planning approval 53/0623/08/F (retention of PVC windows) Torcross Apartment Hotel, Torcross

 

1302/08/F Alterations to dwelling Church View Cottage, Kiln Lane, Stokenham

 

           PLANNING PERMISSION REFUSED

 

1194/08/F Extension and alterations to dwelling The Close, Stokenham

 

5.        BOUNDARY COMMITTEE

 

It was noted that councillors felt Community boards should not be dominated by Unitary representatives.  Also it was asserted that a comment should be made that such Boards should elect their own chair rather than the Unitary representative taking such post.  Concerns were also noted in relation to non elected stakeholders participating on the boards.

 

Councillors considered a draft response and discussed as above.  It was AGREED to await further information on the 16th September from County before finalising such council response to the Boundary Committee.

 

6.        DEVOLVED SERVICES

 

Councillors received the notes of the Pilot working party to update them.  It was further reported that District intended to not include waste bin collection in the pilot.  The Chair and Clerk have therefore taken issue with this suggestion and are to meet with Chris Lucas to discuss this and again challenge the remit of the Stokenham pilot.

 

Since the working party notes Bill Lawrence has agreed to co-ordinate the workers and a new commencement date of 28th September has been agreed to align with the changeover of shifts to a winter schedule.  The Clerk advised that she had today taken and passed Chapter 8 training.

 

In an effort to advise and include other parishes within the pilot the Chair and District Cllr. Baverstock had attended Slapton Parish Council on Monday to explain the pilot expectations to date.  It was noted that this council run on a 3 month rolling change of chair and whilst they received the presentation well they were not conversant with the wider expectations of such devolution.  They had then attended East Portlemouth on Wednesday and responded to some well thought out questions such as; ‘with staff multi tasking what were the unions going to say?’.  Tonight prior to this council meeting they attended Chivelstone who expressed their thanks that the councillors had attended to ‘put them in the picture’.  It was however noted that the litter bin at East Prawle green is emptied by the attendant cleaning the toilets and this thus was a case for including such in the all other routines.

 

Cllr Baverstock summed up that each parish council had appreciated the fact that they had gone to share thoughts on what Stokenham were intending and they promised to return at the end of the pilot to brief them on outcomes and achievements.

 

Cllr Arundell noted the District concerns with regard to attendants/workers carrying refuse bags from the public bins within their lorry and a suggested a wheelie bin sited to deposit bins refuse in, for collection by other workers passing through the parish.

 

It was AGREED that the Clerk and Chair will again meet with Chris Lucas to further develop the pilot with an aim to commence on the 28th September.

 

7.        QUARTERLY NEWSLETTER

 

It was AGREED to approve the contents of the draft newsletter and for such to be printed and circulated accordingly.

 

8.        REPORTS

 

Matters around the parish requiring notification or action by the Clerk:

 

Coleridge Cross towards Frittiscombe, Coleridge Farm/contractors maybe – muddy road.

 

Alongside village green in Beesands noted that there is flooding on the road up to half the width – suggest to District channeling to green to disperse.

 

Beesands/Beeson signs – Noted that they have still not been replaced.  Clerk advised that County have ordered and they are awaited.

 

Cllr Greening arrived and took the Chair. 

Cllr Baverstock arrived

 

As a point of information it was noted that complaints had been received from Chillington residents with regard to the public footpath from Well Farm down through to Frogmore barns – field gate chained and padlocked.  Cattle had been allowed to stray on to the highway because walkers had not closed the gate and thus the gate will be reopened asap.  This path is a Permissive Path for 10 years and can be closed for H&S reasons at any time.  The gates when left open were deliberately wedged open!

 

           CLERK’S REPORT

 

The clerk drew councillors attention to the following:

 

  • A379 Proposed bus stop improvements, Bus Stop 68 Church House Inn, Stokenham.
  • Devon Association of Parish Councils proposed subscription rates 2009/10 and Cllrs. Bates and Vale to attend the AGM.
  • A379 Carehouse Cross to Torcross – Highway Structural Maintenance, preliminary consultation.
  • Confirmation of permission by County for a seat to be erected within the highway (pavement) at the end of Coleridge Lane on the A379 junction.  District Cllr. Baverstock and his wife have donated such seat.
  • South Hams District Council, Affordable Housing Surgery.  Cllrs Bates and Vale to attend.
  • Request from District for nominations for South Hams Young Sports Person of the Year Sports Awards 2008.  A few names were put forward.
  • Local Development Framework – Planning Obligations SPD (Draft) consultation documents received for response by 10th October 2008.
  • Draft South West Regional Spatial Strategy 2006 – 2026 Proposed Changes update as tabled.  Councillors attention was also drawn to two additional information documents now supporting this document.

 

9.        DISTRICT COUNCILLOR’S REPORT

 

District Cllr. Baverstock noted that during August District Council acts on a skeleton staff basis and thus there was not much to report.  Today Executive had sat to discuss car parking concessions for residents within South Hams.  Proposals via a paper were that residents be given the opportunity to park in District car parks up to 10a.m. without payment and after 4p.m. likewise.

 

Cllr. Harwood arrived.

 

Cllr. Brazil advised that local residents would have the option of purchasing a permit for £10.00 p.a. such permit only being available to those paying 100% tax.  This proposal is to go to full council on 25th September.    District Cllr. Baverstock advised that most work is currently revolving around the Boundary Committee response.  South Hams together with West Devon are trying to convince people to request Status Quo whereas County are in favour of a Unitary Devon.  He went on to advise that on the Boundary Committee website there appears to be mixed views although the predominant opinion appears to be for County.  Such consultation and consideration has involved so many officers and is seen as a drain to on Local Authority resources.

 

10.      COUNTY COUNCILLOR’S REPORT

 

County Cllr. Brazil echoed the thought of Dist. Cllr. Baverstock and thus advised there was little to report for August.  The first Executive meeting in September was last Tuesday but containted nothing of substance affecting this area.  With the inordinate amount of time being spent on the Boundary Committee review many County Councillors if given the option of status quo would go for this.  However if given a Unitary they all wish to go for a single unitary and not one rural and one Exmouth/Exeter unitary.

 

A question was received with regard to free bus passes and whilst County does not provide this facility it was noted that such provision has cost District dearly.  A proposed scheme for free swimming for over 60’s is also applauded but Government have not provided enough funding and District could find themselves out of pocket again.  With holidaymakers visiting using their bus passes in the area District will then need cover such summer expenditure and this is a further drain.

 

11.      FINANCE AND CHEQUES

 

Cheques:

001525 Mrs G. Claydon – Clerk’s August Wages £950.46

001526 In. Rev. – Tax & Nat. Ins. August £316.27

001527 P. Stone – Bus Shelter Cleaning £75.00

001528 A. Ball – Bus Shelter Cleaning £75.00

001529 E. Luscombe – Bus Shelter Cleaning £75.00

001530 P. Ball – Bus Shelter Cleaning £75.00

001531 DAPC – Quality Status Update training £10.00

001532 DAPC – AGM £30.00 (If applicable)

001533 Eclipse Internet – August Council & Community IT £36.98

 

Payments received: Planning Training Day (3 delegates) £75.00

 

14.      POINTS OF INFORMATION

 

DAPC Annual Report 2007/08 + Proposed subscription rates for 2009/10

British Heart Foundation Great West Ramble Literature – 26th October 2008.

SHDC Executive Forward Plan 4th September 2008.

Devon & Cornwall Police Authority Liaison Meeting Poster.

SHDC Boundary Committee Leaflet.

Local Council Review September 2008.

Devontalk – County Autumn 2008 magazine.

Clerks & Councils Direct September 2008.

Village Green x 4.

The Clerk Magazine September 2008.

 

15.      NEXT MEETING

 

The next full parish council meeting will be held on Thursday 18th September 2008 at 7.30p.m. in the Wesley Smith Room, Stokenham Parish Hall.

 

Meeting finished: 9.15 p.m.

 

Signed ………………………   Dated: 18th September 2008.